:Well It turns out the original information about Ben Wagner is incorrect. To be fair this is the internet and quite frankly unless you have the tools to track someone, the best you’ve got is leaked information. Leaked information can be controlled and the previous article was based on an image of a guy holding a drink on a blog Ben Wagner ran with the words ‘my alcohol problem’ on it. It seems that while Ben Wagner was trying to scam the Irate Gamer sucks blog by doing absolutely no worthwhile damage, Ben Wagner was also trying to scam the Toho Kingdom forum, which also did absolutely no worthwhile damage.
Special thanks to POPSJNR for providing the information. Its a shame he didn’t provide a link and I had to search myself, but I wouldn’t have found out if not for him.
I’ll finish up this article when I have the time, but in the meantime I’ll just leave this link here for the people who want to find out immediately.
Edit: and this quote too because writing out everything Ben’s done would be way too hard
by Jomei » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:31 pm
o.supreme wrote:So… who wrote the “Toho in America” articles? (my apologies for sounding ignorant just requesting clarification)…
Good question. I can’t say for certain, but it’s clear by now that stealing other people’s work is this guy’s modus operandi.
If you look back at benthemanner’s old posts, you can find him getting called out on stealing images and claiming they are items from his collection. He promptly edits the images out and never replies. On his fake wife’s profile, there is no picture, but I am told he previously had an image of a popular model/actress on the page–before getting called out and removing it.
And yes, this is one for the books for sure. I have to thank Masonwerx for getting me and yaburu on the trail of the whole thing, and the “ben wagner troll” as we’ve called him has also been helpful today in providing confirmation on some info.”
Alrighty then I now have time to actually write things that aren’t related to a highly compressed work schedule. So without further mystery I will now reveal all the information I have uncovered.
Little is known about the real Ben Wagner. He may be a 12 year old kid as evidenced by his behavior and his shutdown facebook page (with a picture of a really chubby kid). He’s definitely not any of the adults in the pictures Ben has used to fake his ID as those people have actually called and said that they aren’t Ben. Regardless it doesn’t matter who Ben Wagner is in Real life, he’ll always be a loser and psychopath on the internet. Now what I said isn’t even slanderous because its true. Ben Wagner has repeated attempted to infiltrate sites by faking his credentials and showing someone else’s work and claiming that he did it. He tried this on a fansubbing (Hi no Tori Fansub) group then the toho forums (which is another subbing group) before finally deciding that he hadn’t failed enough and decided to troll the Irate Gamer sucks blog.
We already know what happened with the Irate Gamer sucks blog (recap: Idiot says he hates IG, Says he owns cheetahman reboot, says he loves the cheetahman reboot, gets pressed for a video and then shows up as David Sams writing stupid shit and forgot to note that his avatar is the same picture as the one his ‘main’ account has on his photobucket. Decides to say that he loves Irate Gamer before making a very juvenile exit. As a commentary, I do believe that Ben and Irate Gamer should really trade notes, after all they both love plagiarism and being an asshole with very loose morals.) but what about the other websites that got buzzed by Ben Wagner. On average Ben Wagner lasted about two weeks before getting owned or ousted which to be fair isn’t a long time since he spent all his effort towards making authoritative statements and then stalling for time when pressed to put your money where your mouth is. Banks give people at least 3 or so weeks before they disclose on them so it reflects on how poor Ben Wagner is at maintaining his cover or at the very least, not excessively taking risks.
To begin with (and I do hope this is the first time Ben Wagner was caught red handed) he tried to gain access to Hi No Tori fansubs. They gave him the job (despite being warned earlier not to by POPSJNR, though to be fair, I have no Idea what message Hi No Tori received and they’re pretty hush about it on their forums.. i.e I can’t find any information on the incident besides what they told Toho.) and tasked him with the first episode of Robot Detective. Since Ben Wagner has issues understanding exactly what the job of Translator involves, the sub looked like shit and it wasn’t long before he was fired.
How Bad would Lasersquad (me) and Batdansucks have to have fucked up to reach Ben Wagner’s level: In order to reach this level of fuck-up-ness Batdansucks would have to have promised Ladybuggin777 and interview and then post the interview on the blog in windings3. It would have to be so obvious that we hated them that the posted interview would look like this:
Oh yes that’s right Wingdings doesn’t display in word press, my bad! We’re still butt buddies right Chris? Look on the bright side Chris, I HATE YOU but at least I’m not delusional enough to submit a video with subtitles that don’t form coherent english sentences… you know that language I’m supposed to be fluent in? in addition to my false claim of being proficient in Japanese?”
Ben Wagner is one hell of translator folks, he’s so good at communication that he can’t write a proper English sentence. Could be worse… I mean Hi No Tori could have asked Ben Wagner to translate English to English… since its clear that only language that Ben Wagner is actually proficient in is moron. Maybe they should tasked Ben Wagner with Translating Japanese to Moron, because that more accurately describe Ben Wagner’s subbing of Robot Detective. Someone should totally upload that on youtube just to show how bad Ben is at translating.
But I must digress about Ben’s poor translation skills for I must now talk about his attempt to ‘pwn’ Toho Kingdoms. He decided to make an account called benthemanner since if it wasn’t already apparent that Ben Wagner has severe insecurities, Ben wants to form the illusion that he is a man and that he is capable of having manners
“You can suck a bag of dicks, at this point. Go fuck yourself. I bet your just a troll who lives in his mother’s basement, and watches tons of Gay Porn.” – Ben Wagner
“Please delete those posts I made, about you, my apologies.”- Ben Wagner shortly after…
Of course Ben Wagner managed to completely destroy his credibility at the forums in record time by insulting well known translators at the site, submitting Hi No Tori’s work and claiming it was his. That was obviously a smart move since you know, they people you pissed off aren’t gonna have an incentive to report you right? Ben then claimed he was subbing whatever series someone was interested in and at one point promised he would sub the third seasons of show that didn’t have a third season. Ben Wagner then made multiple accounts and attempted to nominate himself as the mod. I seriously wonder what Ben Wagner would do if he had executive admin privileges but if its anything like Chris Bore’s power fantasies then it would out right murder. Of course people who can understand the English language are rather intelligent and his ruse (if you even want to call it ruse, I call it stupidity) was exposed and he was promptly banned. There was apparently two Ben Wagners, the one mentioned on this site and a ‘fake’ one which was trying to warn everyone that the real Ben Wagner was a complete loser with no life trying to ruin everyone else’s life.
“How bad lasersquad (me) and Batdansucks would have had to have fucked up to reach Ben’s level of incompetence: We’d have to tell Batdamn who we were well in advance and then attempt to scam Irate Gamer with a screen-capped conversation with Batdamn saying “He’s cool”. We’d then try to force Irate Gamer into letting us onto his show using over 12 fake accounts that appeared to support us out of nowhere. For our to plan to succeed, Irate Gamer would have to never talk to Batdamn about us, never bother to check if the fake accounts were actually fans and then let us onto the show despite the fact that we don’t live near his location and… fuck it, Irate Gamer is incompetent enough that it would succeed even if we were as dumb as Ben Wagner.”
I would just like to remind you that Ben Wagner has been stupid enough to repeatedly give me his IP address and so its to no surprise that he started groveling and asking me to ‘forgive him’ for absolutely no reason. No 188.8.131.52 you do not get forgiven for being a total asshole. What were you trying to do? Play undercover cop? How many business and private forums were you trying to dismantle and ruin for everyone? Is the subbing community really happy to know that you’ve slowed their progress and wasted their time because they thought they could depend on you to translate a full length episode? You claim to love godzilla and other kaiju movies but you had no trouble ripping off an entire fansub group that is one of few reasons why the franchise even has influence in English cultures by claiming their subtitles were yours. You wanted to play God but in the end you only showed that you’re not even qualified to use a keyboard!
And the worst part of all this is that:
Ben Wagner has no real reason or motivation for doing what he does. There’s no reason why he would lie his way into a fansub group (its not like screwing over the fansub group helps anyone). He does it because he’s a psychopath who loves lying and loves hurting people with his lies.
Well I’ve got one last question to be asked. Does anyone think that the Irate Gamer culture may be against Kaiju franchises in general? Irate Gamer seems to be very anti-Japanese to begin with. He refuses to talk about Anime and constantly thinks that being kiddy = bad. He loves Skylanders despite the fact that its made for kids but hates Nintendo for being kiddy. Irate Gamer has never talked about Godzilla which is surprising considering that AVGN talks about it A LOT. I’ll leave this up to you readers!